These are all names for the same product.
It is developed by Dr Boyd Haley as a safe heavy metal chelator. Officially it is currently available for compassionate use only while it gets FDA approval. Dr Haley’s website:
There are also unofficial forums like on facebook that are obtaining it (one only has to google the product to find who else sells it). Boyd does not recommend buying it from these medical companies but people are, and getting results. All sorts of claims are being made, both good and bad, but this what I have learned about it:
- because anyone has access to it (if they are willing to spend approx $400 to $700+ a month at full dose) people take too little or too much and also some are not heavy metal toxic, so you can imagine all the comments when really no one can prove if and how badly they are toxic and what is the correct dose for them. This puts the potentially effective product at risk of never making to to mainstream use. So please do your homework and be very careful both discussing and consuming it.
- For sulphur sensitive people who have been severely toxic for many years, a normal dose (100mgs x 3 per day, so 300mgs) can make you feel much much worse. A much lower starting dose and a molybdenum supplement should help with this. Some people are using micro scales and starting at 1mg per day and building up.
- OSR is lipophilic meaning it can cross the blood brain barrier and basically get everywhere and anywhere metals are hiding. Metals are bound very tightly and then excreted over time via the bowel.
- My assumption is that because OSR also increases glutathione inside the cell, it causes toxins to be pushed out of the cell. This is good but if there isn’t enough OSR to bind to the metals then we can fell very shitty. This is my take on it I could be wrong.
- OSR has a supposed half life of 24 hours so taking it once a day should be fine. BUT, some people seem to get what feel like redistribution symptoms after say 18 hours so find taking it more often is better. This all still very experimental so a careful approach is needed.
- I also think that for the chronic cases, when OSR does bind and remove a metal it does disrupt the balance of that cell and it can take a while for us to recover. So there most likely will be side effects that should be able to be managed with supplements, low dosing to start, a very nutritious diet and enough rest.
- 2 weeks cycles are recommended but once again this can be personalized. Some do a 3 day round Andy Cutler style, and also take the core four supplements – Vitamin C, magnesium, Zinc and Vitamin E. There is no standard protocol as yet. Dr Boyd Haley has taken over 100mgs every day for years but someone else may not tolerate a single dose at 5mg.
I dearly hope that this product does what it says it does and therefore will help so many people who are suffering. It is SO much easier than doing the old school chelation with DMSA, DMPS and ALA, particularly for the more severe cases. It’s just going to take some time and experimentation to work out some protocols.
Links:
1: A molybdenum option, a decent dose at 1mg per day:
https://www.thorne.com/products/dp/molybdenum-glycinate
2: OSR Forum – search on Facebook
3: Boyd Haley’s video – more on Youtube and elsewhere.
Hi John
My dentist has also highlighted this product which does sound promising. Except now I’m overstocked with DMSA and ALA!
So just to be clear, I assume you don’t have access to the official product yet right? Technically it is available in NZ, but I don’t know of anyone that would prescribe it – let me know if you hear of anything
Cheers
Cam
Hi Cam, hey if DMSA and ALA are working then that’s great. I found them too tough in terms of side effects and getting up at night. I don’t have access to the genuine product named Irminix; the thought of talking my doctor into applying for this has put me off. I can’t see it becoming easily available because of the risk of side effects with chronic cases. As long as people who need it can get it.
Hey John, well that’s the thing. How would I know if DMSA is working well for me or not – especially regarding detox pathways. I don’t always feel great on it, but I also don’t know what it is doing to my kidneys.
I hope Irminix gets through the approval phase soon, but who knows with these things. I suspect a lot of the population could use it, but big pharma might not like that. I haven’t read into the side effects in any detail.
I think my dentist is going to try and use a more subtle approach that doesn’t involve the usual chelators as such, but I don’t have all the details yet. Getting 4 root canal treated teeth removed in 2 weeks, so that is the first priority.
So what will you try then? Or are you saying you’re going to use the non-genuine approach?
Cheers
Hi John. The contact form doesn’t seem to be working.
The main reason for this contact is I strongly suspect that I have mercury poisoning. While I was already doing poorly, my conditions worsened, & I developed new problems right after a procedure to replace my old mercury amalgams.
I have tried chelators before, it always goes badly. After the first run, where I thought I was actually dying, I came across a video series by an actual specialist in mercury chelation who went through almost exactly what I had. He is one of two doctors who claim to have identified genetic factors that determine a person’s ability to tolerate mercury chelation – that is, how much of it your kidneys can pass when the chelator binds to it because, then it moves through the kidneys & liver, to be excreted.
If you know of a product that avoids this problem, I’d appreciate your sharing it.
There is a potential lead here: apparently, someone has developed a means of burying humans with products that break down the heavy metals & other toxins that we humans accumulate throughout our lives, https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jae+rhim+lee+her+company+coeio+
So they are implying heavy metals can be broken down naturally by mushrooms. Very very important if true, no?
None of these companies will respond to members of the public asking about this. It could be a tremendous boon to a company like yours to discover a safe, possibly much more effective means of removing toxins from the body, yes?
Hi Michael, Sorry for the late reply. I hope you found something that works. Chelation really is a tricky and potentially dangerous process for a lot of people.
Hi John,
While also checking out heavy metal removal techniques yesterday I came across an interesting piece by Dr Klinghardt:
“In fact, the type of retained metal or other toxin and the body compartment where it is stored, can be predicted with a high degree of certainty by knowing what type of unresolved psycho-emotional conflict is present in a client and at what age the associated event occurred”
Thats something us guys would hardly know what or where to go looking for help… outside or inside of ourselves….. lol
That came from the following page about 3/4 the way down:
http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/klinghardt-heavymetalchelation-2.html#balanced-electrolyte-solution-selectrolyte
It has some good natural detox alternatives listed there too.
Food for thought maybe,
Kind regards
Dean.
Thanks for that Dean. Everyone seems to have a different way of healing, some go well on chelation alone and some take a more natural approach. There are so many factors that are a part of healing. I’ve heard Dr Klinghardt say we must remove WiFi from our lives but I’m also aware of people who have recovered in cities which are bathed in WiFi so I take all claims with a grain of salt. We can only do our best and personalize our own protocols.